blogged by JULE SELBO

This week I was a guest on Steven Jame’s podcast: The Story Blender. It’s a weekly podcast for authors, storytellers, comedians, actors and filmmakers. I met Steven at ThrillerFest, we were on the same panel, assigned to talk about STORY. He’s written over a dozen crime/mysteries, including the Patrick Bower series and the Travis Brock thrillers – as well as two books on the ART of writing fiction.
What writer ever tires of talking about construction of STORY? And talking about if PLOT and STORY are totally different animals? Or talk about what – in crime mysteries – is most “wanted” by the reader – a CHARACTER ARC or focus on the ENGAGING PUZZLE of clues and red herrings, obstacles, dead bodies and danger.
Like a lot of panels at the writer conferences, there were four us talking about the subject. Tom Straw (famous for the Richard Castle series (which he wrote under the pseudonym Richard Castle and then there ws the tv show – he’s written other books also) joined us too
and Boyd Morrison (he writes novels solo – as well as with his sister Beth – as well as with Clive Cussler) and we danced around personal definitions, how we make sense of STORY in our own heads, how aware we are that it’s often semantics and not disagreement of how to use STORY while preparing or executing a crime/mystery.


Steven and I realized we were two birds of the same feather. We both have a deep love of movies, tv series, have written screenplays – as well as love to talk story, plot, characters and nitty-gritty things like sentence structure, paragraph structure, length of chapters, theme, dialogue, minutiae and the big picture. So when he invited me to be on his podcast I thought – great – a place to continue our conversation.
During the podcast, Steven and I got on a micro-tangent about THEME in crime/mysteries. For some reason (in the semantics lightbulb going off in my head), the exploration of theme began to line up with the idea of DILEMMA. I tend to appreciate stories with small or large character arcs – (some coming-of-age component, some tiny or massive maturation) – and when Steven and I discussed DILEMMA, we circled around how THEME might have a correlation to the interior dilemma the protagonist is facing – and how facing the dilemma can lead to that interior growth (character arc).
Yeah yeah. More semantics. But no matter if we landed on the absolute correct words or if the off-the-cuff connection we explored might hold up in a longer examination – it’s been helpful to me as I navigate through the final chapters of 7 DAYS, A Dee Rommel Mystery (4th in the series). And as I re-read the beginning and middle chapters of 7 DAYS to make sure the through-line of the main investigations and the personal stories were holding together I kept that word in mind: Dilemma.
I don’t know about you, but THEME rises to the top for me as I work on a project. I can’t write to theme. I don’t have a sermon inside me waiting to come out. But as a Dee Rommel book progresses, I start to realize that my private investigator Dee (a woman who needs a lot of coming-of-age moments to (hopefully) realize her full potential) is taking the events of the plot and internalizing them in relation to her most recent and prevalent character dilemma. Just this morning I realized (yeah, like I said, I’m in the final chapters) that her fear of not having family, of losing someone very important in her life, is affecting all the past and new relationships she deals with in the investigation. Almost like she’s pushing people away to prove to herself she doesn’t need anyone. Or is it that she’s pushing so hard because she wants deeper commitment, but can’t help wondering if anything will be deep enough to replace the significant losses in her life?

7 DAYS, still in progress. But I love this moment. When I can go back through the pages and shape the STORY just a little bit – to allow THEME to be hinted at. Keep it always subliminal – but let it be there.














Great stuff. Plot. Story. Theme. Dilemma. It is a twisting path we weave. Was just having some past history thoughts of Max Creed in the middle of the night that is going to send him down some unknown paths.
Yes yes – love all your plots and character perks.
It is often in the final chapters or even when the first draft is done that I see some things that are happening in the story. How a character’s personal arc is developing. Sometime even the meta question: what is this book about. About the crime and it’s solution, yes, but often more about people and society or parents and children, or the many ways we ask our cops to do the jobs others are failing to do. I will even notice that the unconscious writer’s brain has used unending bad weather to echo the events of the book. Always so much to ponder on when we talk craft with others.
Kate
I’m DEFINITELY as much (or more) interested in theme and character than in the who- or why-dunnit plot when I write mysteries. For me, the mystery is the structure on which I hang the story. What excites me is what my private investigator character (Olivia Lively) discovers about herself and her relationships along the way. Whether this is “good” or “bad,” I don’t know. I figure there are readers who will like this and readers who will not.
Sounds like a fabulous podcast. I’m going to give it a listen!
I hope you do listen – you can tell me if it was fun as we ruminated “live”. I think it will be out in a few weeks. Another podcast on Steven’s site – STORY BLENDER podcast – that I particularly enjoyed was one with Mark Greaney (Gray Man series) – and lots of others too.