Over 2000 Women and Still Adding More (and a giveaway)

Kaitlyn Dunnett/Kathy Lynn Emerson here, today writing as Kathy. As some of you know, under that name I write (mostly) historical novels set in the sixteenth century. My interest in that period of history and the women who lived in England back then dates from my childhood, when I read a YA biography of Queen Elizabeth the First. By the time I was in college, I was fascinated by the stories of other influential Tudor women and when I finally took the plunge and sat down to write my first full length novel, I chose to set it in the 1550s.

It didn’t sell. Neither did any of the fiction I wrote during the late 1970s. But in the process of learning my craft, I accumulated file cabinets full of notes and shelves full of books about sixteenth-century England. It was soon obvious to me that, for the most part, details about the lives of sixteenth-century women had been relegated to a sentence here and a footnote there. Often they were identified only as someone’s wife or daughter. Frequently their first names were omitted. Given the number of marriages some women made, an individual could go by a number of surnames and titles in the course of her lifetime, but in many cases no one made the connection between those names. If they had, they’d have realized what interesting lives a lot of sixteenth-century women led.

It seemed to me that it would be helpful to have a reference book that sorted out their identities while also providing a starting point for others to do further research. Since no one else had written one, I decided to tackle the project. My proposal for a book on Tudor women went through several incarnations before finally evolving into a who’s who format. In 1980, after many rejections (“Not scholarly enough”; “Too scholarly”; and my favorite, “Not feminist enough”) I sold the concept to a small scholarly press. It was my first sale. There was no advance. In hindsight, I know that I signed a very disadvantageous contract, but I was still a pretty happy camper. The book was published in 1984 as Wives and Daughters: The Women of Tudor England.

It is both a good thing and a bad thing that the 570 entries in Wives and Daughters eventually became outdated. What’s good is that interest in women’s studies expanded and new discoveries were made. Some of them contradicted what scholars thought they knew. Printed material that was difficult to get a look at in the 1970s is readily available today through electronic search engines, expanding our knowledge even further. The bad part? For decades, I couldn’t do anything about updating my book. It wasn’t until the publisher finally went out of business that my rights were returned to me. At that point, I began updating the entries and adding new ones and created my online A Who’s Who of Tudor Women. On the premise that they were for educational purposes only (I wasn’t charging money for people to view the information) I included portraits and photos of monuments when I could find them.

Fast forward to 2017. Now that I’m no longer writing under the Kate Emerson pseudonym, I’ll be letting that domain name expire at the end of the year. Since that’s where the Who’s Who has been housed, I’m now in the process of launching a new website for my Tudor women biographies. Since art historians keep changing their minds about the identities of subjects of portraits, and since copyright issues are always tricky, I’ve decided to eliminate the illustrations. Anyone who is interested in a particular woman can find her portrait somewhere on line or in a book, just as I did.

Compiling A Who’s Who of Tudor Women has been my hobby for decades. And yes, I admit it, it’s also something of an obsession. At last count, there were 2,278 entries. The Who’s Who was never intended to be a scholarly undertaking. I give some sources, but by and large the entries are still compiled from fleeting mentions of the subject in a wide variety of places. If I included footnotes, they would take up more space than the mini-biography itself. As I said earlier, I intended them to be starting points for more serious research.

Unlike writing a single book, this is a project with no end. Every time I start research for a new historical novel or short story set in the sixteenth century, I discover more interesting Tudor women. Over the years, I’ve also met several similarly obsessed scholars and numerous genealogy buffs. They often share their latest discoveries with me.

What about you, readers of this blog? Are you obsessed with some sort of research? Even if you aren’t writing a book, it’s easy to get hooked while climbing your family tree. Or maybe you read everything you can find on some arcane subject. Share, please, and one lucky person who comments on this post will win an advance reading copy of X Marks the Scot (written as Kaitlyn Dunnett and in stores November 28), in which Liss MacCrimmon and her friends embark on a research project of their own.

Kathy Lynn Emerson/Kaitlyn Dunnett is the author of more than fifty traditionally published books written under several names. She won the Agatha Award and was an Anthony and Macavity finalist for best mystery nonfiction of 2008 for How to Write Killer Historical Mysteries and was an Agatha Award finalist in 2015 in the best mystery short story category. She was the Malice Domestic Guest of Honor in 2014. Currently she writes the contemporary Liss MacCrimmon Mysteries and the “Deadly Edits” series (Crime and Punctuation—2018) as Kaitlyn and the historical Mistress Jaffrey Mysteries (Murder in a Cornish Alehouse) as Kathy. The latter series is a spin-off from her earlier “Face Down” mysteries and is set in Elizabethan England. New in 2017 is a collection of short stories, Different Times, Different Crimes. Her websites are www.KaitlynDunnett.com and www.KathyLynnEmerson.com

Were you wondering about the women featured in the portraits? Imagine how frustrated I was when I couldn’t identify someone mentioned in a footnote. The illustrations above show:

  1. monument to Dorothy Bampfield, Lady Dodderidge of Barnstaple, Devon (d.1615) in the Lady Dodderidge Chapel, Exeter Cathedral
  2. portrait labeled “Duchess of Chandos” and attributed to John Bettes the Younger, 1577 in the Paul Mellon Collection. The Chandos title is that of baron not duke. The subject is currently thought to be Frances Clinton (d. 1623), wife of the third baron.
  3. The Cholmondeley Sisters with their babies, supposedly born on the same day. There is debate over their identities. The portrait was painted between 1600 and 1610 and is in the Tate.
  4. portrait of Mildred Cooke, Lady Burghley (1526-1589), probably while pregnant with her son, Robert Cecil, in 1563, attributed to Hans Eworth and located at Hatfield House
  5. stained glass window in Arundel Cathedral, West Sussex, showing Anne Dacre, Countess of Arundel and Surrey (1557-1630)
  6. monument in Westminster Abbey to Elizabeth Russell (1575-1600), goddaughter of and maid of honor to Queen Elizabeth and daughter of the notorious Lady Russell who kept Shakespeare’s company from opening a theater in the Blackfriars precinct of London.
  7. detail of a family tree created in 1597 for the Heskeths of Rufford showing the two wives of Thomas Hesketh (d.1523), Elizabeth Fleming, from whom he was divorced in 1487, and Grace Towneley (d.1510)
  8. sketch by Hans Holbein the Younger, probably of Mary Zouche (c.1512-after 1542), maid of honor to several of Henry VIII’s queens.
  9. detail of memorial brass in St. Giles, Noke, Oxfordshire, showing Joan Hurste (d.1599) and her daughters by her second husband, Henry Bradshaw. He and her sons are also shown on the memorial brass, as is her first husband.
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9 Responses to Over 2000 Women and Still Adding More (and a giveaway)

  1. Lea Wait says:

    Your research is incredible, Kathy! I’ve been so impressed with it since I first heard of your project. And love that you’re making it available to the rest of the world. So fantastic!


    • kaitlynkathy says:

      Thanks, Lea.


      • M. E. Kemp says:

        I decided the research I did for my book set during the Salem Witch Trials – DEATH OF A BAWDY BELLE – shouldn’t go to waste so I give talks on the Witch Trials. The talks are popular – 4 this month – but I continually find out new facts, such as the feud between the Proctors and the Putnams (that led to John Proctor being hung) went back several generations! I’m constantly updating my talks.


  2. I’ve always been fascinated by the way you find these details, pulling small bits out of lengthy historical records. It must make your teeth hurt when writers are careless with the facts.



  3. Great blog, Kathy. I too have been obsessed with the Tudor period since my teens. I have a large collection of books on Elizabeth I, Henry VIII’s wives, and some of the other important people of the period. I can’t explain the fascination, though I too found and read bios of Elizabeth I and Jane Grey in my teens. I think that was the start of it all.


    • kaitlynkathy says:

      Hi, Annette, I keep waiting for the Tudor craze to die out but it never really does. New titles in both fiction and nonfiction keep cropping up.


  4. kaitlynkathy says:

    Marilyn, it’s a never ending project! I can’t imagine why anyone thinks history is dull, let alone static.


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